DIVINE MASCULINE FT. BROTHAH SINCERE

GUEST INTERVIEW W/ BROTHAH SINCERE FROM WILLINGBORO, NJ HE'S A FATHER, COMMUNITY ACTICIST, YOUTH ADVOCATE, AUTHOR, WITH KNOWLEDGE OF SELF. SINCERE SHARED HIS PERSPECTIVE ON WHAT A DIVINE MASCULINE IS AND HOW AWARENESS IS THE KEY TO ELEVATING YOURSELF MENTALLY. HE DISCUSSED HOW IMPORTANT IT IS FOR YOU TO QUESTION EVERYTHING YOU BELIEVE ESPECIALLY WHAT YOU'VE BEEN PROGRAMMED TO BELEIVE AS TRUE. DOING THE RESEARCH TO YOURSELF PUTS YOU IN POSITION OF KNOWING RATHER THAN BELIEVING.

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SPEAKER_01 0:20

Peace, peace, peace. Now it's happening with Supreme Minded Podcast. We inform and inspire when the host and create the Supreme Mind, the self-made God, Supreme Being, Supreme Energy, Supreme Thought, Supreme Vibe, Supreme Mom, Supreme Minded Podcast. Let's build Season 2, Episode 10. Titled Divine Masculine. Featuring my guy. Brother Sinclair. You know what I mean? Peace, peace, peace to the God. What's the vibe, dog? What's going on, man? What is going on? So yeah, we last um Brother Sincere. And I felt like he was just a perfect fit for the title Divine Masculine. We're gonna get into why I chose this brother to be an example. You know what I'm saying? A pivotal aspect of what a Divine Masculine is. He's a father, community activist, youth advocate, and author. And a valid member of the conscious community who has knowledge itself. Or what's up, King? What's going on, bro?

SPEAKER_02 2:00

Thanks, God. Nothing, man, waiting to get into it. Cultivate, spread the love.

SPEAKER_01 2:06

It's been a minute, man. We've been we've been kind of trying to get this going for a little minute, right?

SPEAKER_02 2:12

Yeah. Yeah. It's been a while. But we finally made it. So that's a beautiful thing.

SPEAKER_01 2:19

Exactly. I feel like it was it was about time, and you know everything happened in its own time for real.

SPEAKER_02 2:25

Definitely. Divine timing. The more that we experience, the more we see how real divine timing is.

SPEAKER_01 2:31

Mm-hmm. Say that. So who is Brothers and Sid?

SPEAKER_02 2:38

Brother Sin Sid. Best way to scribe it, brother, focused on love, man. Focused on building, focused on cultivating. Focused on getting out of the box, out of the trap, you know, this that we are conditioned in this world, you know, focused on getting away from that and getting our people away from that. So you know, the only way to do that is with love. Love really conjures up once you experience it. So, you know, um as a people that know me know that that wasn't my uh the name given to me by my earth and my father, you know, um as I was as I was growing on in my journey, I always wanted to change my name. And actually, I never even liked my name since I was a young boy. I never liked the name that was given to me. I didn't understand why until I got older, you know. Um, so then during my journey, I started feeling like this was my slave name and I didn't like it, you know. I wanted to get rid of it. But this was about 10 years ago. And I never, one thing about me, I don't rush to do anything. Just because I want to do something don't mean I'm gonna do it. Like we spoke on earlier with the Vine Thomas, you know. Even when I didn't have an understanding of the Vine Thomas, still was, it still was a part of me.

SPEAKER_04 4:04

You know.

SPEAKER_02 4:05

Um, so I'm looking at African books, you know, was very, very big on, you know, in the beginning of my journey on that type of time, Africa and things of that nature. Because I'm learning.

SPEAKER_03 4:17

Right.

SPEAKER_02 4:17

So I'm looking at African names, and actually, like I said, I looked at a couple African books, but nothing sat right with me, you know. So it actually took me a few years later. You know, I ran into Supreme Mathematics and um Peace of the Global. Yeah, so that was it was beautiful to me. And you know, we I'm looking at, you know, build and destroy. You know, of course that's that's eight, you know, and my board date is a 17th, which is eight, you know, and it just aligned. I'm like, oh yeah, this is me. You know.

SPEAKER_01 4:55

So respect, respects. That was that was see this one be this is what I'm saying. This is why I picked this brother, like, because a lot of people really are unable, you know, and just limited to articulating themselves or really even just knowing who they are. And what, you know, and why they represent what they represent. You know what I'm saying? And a name ain't just a name. You know what I'm saying? But we we ain't gonna we ain't gonna dwell on it too much though. But because we could we could do this for hours. It's my brother right here. So let's get to this interview though. But um, so where did you grow up?

SPEAKER_03 5:30

I grew up in uh Willenboro, New Jersey.

SPEAKER_01 5:33

You still connected to that community now?

SPEAKER_02 5:36

Yes, heavily. I still live here, yeah. Still connected. That's why I'm doing most of the community work right here in Willemborough.

SPEAKER_01 5:44

Right. So what what does your community work consist of?

SPEAKER_02 5:51

Um being being involved, you know, with other people that doing community work. Um, but my main thing is teaching the youth, you know, early on things that we learn later or never at all. And you know, teaching them to unlearn things that we learn early. So my that's my passion. And number, that's the first and foremost thing is with the youth. But I also, like I said, other people that are doing things, you know, whether they're doing a cookout, a celebration, if I can be a part of it, if I can help out, I'm gonna do that. So um I also work with the Nation of Islam, the brothers at the chapter out here in Willenborough, they have been very receptive to me and what I'm with. So I do a lot of work with them through a group. Well, I started with common ground. That was pretty much like, listen, man, we gotta not focus on the differences. It's time to focus on the things that we agree upon, and that's what I'm about. So, you know, we all want to create a more beautiful environment for the babies. So if you're with that, I can I can dig it. I can work with you. You know what I mean? You're not trying to conform me to any of your ideologies, spiritually or religiously. If we could focus on building a better day for the people, the culture, I'm with it. So that was common ground.

SPEAKER_01 7:11

No, I respect it. Yeah, I think we had you shared that with me. I think we bit was building on that. Um about some different aspects of that. Um so as far as your childhood, did you like school?

SPEAKER_02 7:24

No, I never liked school. I mean, honestly, the only time I only thing I liked about school was the girls. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_01 7:31

But why didn't I like school? Why didn't you like school? Was it a specific reason or it's just just a child thing, like, you know, because school's structured, you know what I mean? Like people telling you what to do all day, and you know, certain classes you may not necessarily like, but you know how children operate. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02 7:50

School never aligned with me because whether I had clarity on it or not, I always wanted freedom. Um I'm I'm a non-performist, you know. And of course I didn't I didn't know how to label that when I was younger. But the world never made sense to me. You know, things I would hear as a little boy, you know, I always thought differently. And um, I didn't have anybody talk to about that. So yeah, school just didn't align because since I was a little boy, I always wanted money. Because I always knew that money was how you can make things happen. You know what I mean? So going to school wasn't showing me that, you know, they like you can go to college and they have a specific route for you to go, but none of those things, you know how they say you want to be a doctor or a little bit like I never wanted to be any of those things, you know. So um school didn't align. I always wanted businesses, you know. Um even though I was young in the mind, I looked up to the guys like that, like Bill Gates. I'm eight years old, I hear Bill Gates a bigger, I'm like, oh yeah, that's what I need to do. You know what I'm saying? So entrepreneurship was something that was on my mind at an early age, you know. And Bill Gates ain't nothing. I'm you know, like I said, I was young when I when I looked at things that way.

SPEAKER_01 9:04

Right, right. Right. Um so did you go up with both of your parents?

SPEAKER_02 9:13

I did for a while. Um my parents split when I was about 12 years old. And then I just lived with my mother after that.

SPEAKER_01 9:23

Right. So, in the midst of the time of having both parents, would did you notice any benefits from it versus them not being in the same household or having both parents in the household?

SPEAKER_02 9:38

Yeah, I definitely did notice the benefits. Um, because my my pop, he definitely he would, he would talk to me. That's one thing he did. He would talk to me. So I get I get some of that, I get some of the things, you know, from him, he definitely would talk to me about life, you know what I mean? Um when he was there, you know, until things got a little shaky.

SPEAKER_00 10:01

You know.

SPEAKER_02 10:02

But um, that was definitely something that meant a lot to him. Was uh talking about life and getting you to know yourself, you know what I mean? He he didn't have knowledge himself, but he he still was promoting that from his from his aspect, from you know, but he knew about life.

SPEAKER_01 10:22

Right so he, I mean, in a sense, he was just he was conscious, at least of himself and his perception, you know what I'm saying? Like his place in the world and how he's seen the world. That's that's something. We all ain't get that though. Even you know, some of us, I ain't get that, I ain't really get that. You know what I'm saying? And but there's definitely benefits in that. But you know what I'm saying? I just wanted to see what your perspective is, because some of us, you know, don't um don't realize even the same situations that we may go through, it still may be, you know, we still may view it different though. You know what I'm saying? Even if it's the same situation.

SPEAKER_03 11:00

Yeah, he definitely played some good scenes.

SPEAKER_01 11:02

That's what I'm saying. That's what's up. What have you learned from your parents that helped you in your adult life?

SPEAKER_02 11:14

Well, like I said, my pop to be yourself and find out who you are and be that. Um my earth. I learned strength. And you know, I didn't see that that way when I was younger, because my earth she wasn't real community. You know, we communicate a lot better now.

SPEAKER_04 11:35

Right, that's right.

SPEAKER_02 11:35

I always knew she loved me though. You know what I'm saying? It just, you know, communication wasn't a thing, you know, speaking and that that is expressing that too much. Um, but definitely strength. Definitely, definitely the strength from her. You know, and unconditional love.

SPEAKER_01 11:52

That's what's right. That's what's up. Yeah, shout out to my earth. That's one of her attributes of strong suits is unconditional love. Uh like for real, for real. Like, always felt love. And she's very communicative and you know what I'm saying, affectionate. Like my mom's is like, you know what I'm saying? Like literally like a pillar of like my support system, he. Like, for real, for real. Like, you know what I mean? And like uh, and help me really develop my divine uh feminine, you know what I'm saying? Or get that in check. Or shout out to my that's a beautiful thing, you know.

SPEAKER_02 12:30

That's why I said earlier, love conquers all.

SPEAKER_01 12:34

That's a fact. If you've been loved right, you know what I mean? Everybody's perception and thoughts on that is just totally warped, and I get it. Definitely, definitely get it. So, what are your passions? What are you passionate about, I would say, and why?

SPEAKER_02 12:56

Number one passion is teaching the youth. And I'm passionate about that because when I see the youth, I don't see why's. Right. I see I see myself when I was there, when I was their age, but nobody teaching us, nobody making it mandatory to pour into us. So, you know, you see how we build it right now, right? We weren't always on this level. So, you know, I look at it as if we had brothers pouring into us at 15, 13, right? And not saying that we're not gonna still make mistakes and go through, and not saying we would have listened from the beginning, right? But the opportunity needs to be there.

SPEAKER_01 13:41

Like you said, the seed is planting. As long as the seed is planted, it's yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 13:46

As long as we plant the seeds, you know what I'm saying? And as men, we're not playing enough seeds, right? And talk about it. That's no disrespect to the men because the older men didn't plant the seeds, and that's no disrespect to the older brothers, because they working obviously getting the seeds planted, that this is imperative to the mental success and spiritual success of us, you know, because we always dealing with the system. So I'm very that's my number one passion is pouring into the youth, you know. Um, and not just young boys. You know, I I don't really pour into the young girls right now because I don't have that platform and I don't want to just be pushing that, right?

SPEAKER_00 14:24

Right.

SPEAKER_02 14:25

So, you know, I don't want that to be misconstrued in any way. So right now it's just the young brothers, but definitely I would love to have it to where it's co-ed because we need to have that healthy interaction at an early age so we can combat the lust and all the ignorance early on.

SPEAKER_01 14:41

Right. Definitely agree with the balance and equality, of course. Um and but I just feel like from my perspective, I feel like just as a man, our duty to teach a young a young man is just the foundation. Like, you know what I mean? Like I just I think that's just what we're supposed to do. Those that's our counterpart in a sense, like in a sense too. And no, it ain't it's not really us, but like you said, I see me in them. And I've went through a recent situation, you know, I work with the youth, so you know what I mean? It's just like in in the midst of being frustrated, like, hold on, man. This was me at a point, like you know what I'm saying? And then I seen one at court yesterday too, like, let them know, like, yo, whatever, if you whatever you need to talk about, hit me, man. Because where you at right now, I've been there. Like, so if I can help you, you know what I'm saying, guide you to make a better decision in the moment, in the time, like from whatever you're going through, you know what I mean? Just hit me. That's what I'm here for. You know what I mean? So, like you said, a lot of brothers, we need to definitely, you know, make it make it a culture to, you know, pay attention to the younger brothers of the community, man.

SPEAKER_02 15:49

Yeah, because they walking around just like we did. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_01 15:53

Right. You know. So, what would you say is one of your most prized possessions?

SPEAKER_03 16:04

Prized possessions.

SPEAKER_01 16:06

I mean, it could be mental, because I know we deep. I know it ain't, I'm not saying from a physical aspect, man. I'm just saying from any aspect at the same time.

SPEAKER_02 16:15

I mean, the first thing that popped up was my daughter. Um just because of responsibility, you know. Kids don't ask to be born. So, you know, um, and I didn't have the knowledge yourself when I got with her mother. You know, so that that didn't work out. Um, you know, what we've been talking about now, and you know what I'm about, you know, man, woman, child, these things. And you know, my daughter asked me that a month ago. She was like, you know, you promoting this family, but why then, you know, why didn't I have that? You know, and I told her exactly what I just told you. I was like, I didn't know the things I know now. And that's a another reason on why it's um important, imperative for us to teach the youth at an early age. But yeah, my daughter, that's that's my prize possession. You know, I I feel, well I know that I'm obligated to teach her, you know, and cultivate her. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_00 17:13

Right, that's for real.

SPEAKER_02 17:15

So that's my prize. That's my prize possession, you know.

SPEAKER_01 17:19

I respect that. Uh what would you say is your greatest accomplishment in life so far?

SPEAKER_02 17:31

Getting to know myself, getting out the box, getting knowledge yourself. You know, because uh I always it's funny, right? When I was talking about I wanted to be an entrepreneur, right? And I'm still working on those type of things, you know what I'm saying? But you know, as I reflect back and I'm like, damn, if I because I bought my first, I bought a cleaning business when I was 20 years old, but you know, I was still I was selling drugs at the time, you know what I'm saying? So I didn't put the right energy into it because it wasn't bringing the money that I was making. So, you know, I didn't pay no mind. I just thought I could throw money at anything at that time. And um I always said to myself, dang, if I if everything would have gone correctly at that time, I might not ever have, you know what I'm saying, got to where I'm at now with the knowledge of myself. I d I say I would have been a cool, you know what I'm saying? I just would have been loving the material world, you know what I'm saying? I just got my business popping. Yeah, you know. So um, yeah, knowledge itself is the real thing that, you know, saved my life.

SPEAKER_01 18:38

I couldn't believe it.

SPEAKER_02 18:39

It made everything make sense. As I said, you know, when I was younger, huh?

SPEAKER_01 18:44

And I said I couldn't concur more, man.

SPEAKER_02 18:46

Yeah, so it made everything make sense. I said it, you know, when I was younger, things didn't feel right and agree with a lot of the things like taxes and all those things. I didn't agree with those things. So, you know, once I got knowledge of self self, things started to make sense now.

SPEAKER_01 19:01

So, no, no doubt. Knowledge of self saved me, saved my life too, and it and it really allowed me to gain the awareness of knowledge, wisdom, and understanding of myself, those around me in the universe is literally more important than anything. Like, seriously. You know what I'm saying? And it gives you that clarity, it gives you that peace. You know what I'm saying? Like it's just a whole it just puts you on a whole other like frequency. You know what I'm saying? And make people may think like when we say that knowledge itself, like we gloat and like we the smartest and we You know what I'm saying? Like we don't make mistakes and all that, like it don't got nothing to do with that. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, we ain't saying that. But we what we is saying is we we know there's a balance of both. You know what I'm saying? Like, so both have lessons on every side of the coin. So you know what I mean? You're gonna you'll you'll never like elude the lessons. You know what I'm saying? You will look at them shits as like something's wrong, and you know, you going through shit, but again, that's that's how you you know that's just your mindset. You gotta fix your mindset towards things. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_00 20:14

Definitely.

SPEAKER_01 20:15

I think the key to knowledge itself is having that awareness of you know, that's just it's happening for you.

SPEAKER_02 20:22

That's what I was gonna say. That's what knowledge itself really does, it's the awareness, you know. So even when we make mistakes or we incorrect, we can acknowledge that. We aware of it, like, okay, nah, you know, and we don't have knowledge itself, we don't have true knowledge, so you know, you make them say you want to push it over somebody else, that ego, you know what I mean? So that's what that awareness. That awareness is a beautiful thing.

SPEAKER_01 20:47

Definitely is. Um as an animal, what would it be and why? That's what I was looking for. This this was a this was a question that got a lot of the guests like stumped, like, damn, I didn't expect this one. But I like the just the the you know what I mean? The rawness, the rawness of it. Yeah, no, the rawness of it. And just, you know, just to hear a different perspective on, you know, how a person, you know, may view themselves. Like, you know.

SPEAKER_03 21:23

It's a great question. Um I actually it's it's actually a combination.

SPEAKER_02 21:34

Um I don't even it would definitely be I would say the vision of the vision of like a vulture. You know, so I can see far. Or the hawk.

unknown 21:47

You know what I'm saying? One of the birds that I can see from a distance, right?

SPEAKER_02 21:52

For that vision. With a combination of of the silverback. You know, the the silverback. They not eating meat.

SPEAKER_04 22:02

Talk about it.

SPEAKER_02 22:03

They they rolling around with the the women and the babies.

SPEAKER_03 22:07

Uh-huh. Taking care of that.

unknown 22:10

You know, and that's something I I break down in the video.

SPEAKER_01 22:13

You know, brothers always said we want to be lions and silver banks, but the lions and the silver banks, they really want to be able to do it. They family members, yeah. That's a fact. That's a fact. They're not rolling around with 10 men. Right.

SPEAKER_02 22:23

And in just their ways, like, no, they got they holding it down like so. You can't say you want to be that, and you ain't trying to reflect that, you know. Um, yeah, so that's what I would say. The combination of the Hulk and the silver bat, you know. Um, and on an insect level, man, I love the ants. Because they're so organized and the best way.

SPEAKER_01 22:46

They build a community, that's a fact. Yeah, that's a fact. They definitely a true epitome of a community. Uh those are great answers, though. I gotta I gotta build on to that. Like when you pointed out, like, see, like, when you're not when you're not healthy in your masculinity, you feel what I'm saying? You're gonna look at your strengths as an aspect of you that's used against people. You feel me? Like when you name yourself being a lion or so, you know, a lion. Really, a man wanna see himself as a line, because oh, he's strongest and that third. But being strong means still holding your family down. You know what I'm saying? Making the right decisions as a man that's protecting your family. Like, you feel what I'm saying? Because you're not realizing that the decisions you make affect your family. Like, you dig what I'm saying? So I think from that aspect, men don't pay attention to that. It's just a brute, uh, like you have to protect them, but you protecting them in an unhealthy manner. Like the rah-rah is not really protecting them. You know what I'm saying? Making wise decisions, you know what I'm saying, on how to deal with your emotions in challenging times. That's what protects your family, most of all, protects you. Because when you protect you, you're protecting your family. You know what I'm saying? You know what I mean? That's uh that was a great like just point that you made in, you know what I mean? Like describing the the strong masculine in the nature, you know what I'm saying? And how we want to emulate that. But we don't, you know, if we don't have the proper knowledge itself, we're gonna emulate the strengths in the wrong aspects.

SPEAKER_02 24:24

And that's why we gotta really know about nature, because nature has all the ants. It's there, it's all there, you know what I mean? And we really gotta educate each other on that.

SPEAKER_01 24:34

We gotta show people like look at nature. The man, woman, and child. All the way to the, you know what I mean? Down to the ants. That's a fact. Yeah, that's a fact, bro. So let's get into this. So, what's your definition of being a man? Be building on masculinity from now until it's over. This is this is I was just getting in to see who you is. Now we talking about masculinity. Let's go.

SPEAKER_02 25:03

Okay, okay, okay. Number one, man has to cultivate, has to cultivate the minds, as we spoke about earlier, planting them seeds. God has to cultivate the minds, you know, and cultivating culture, those go hand in hand. So if you want to be a man, you know, and you're contributing to your culture, you have to cultivate, you know. And even if we look at the word husbandry, right, which we all are supposed to be, you're supposed to be united with your wizard, things of that nature, right? Husband. That's right there. Husband and husbandry. It's all it's all tied, because the brain tells the truth first. So when people be making these words, when they was starting the languages, the words, these things they weren't even, you might not even be aware of it, but then that's what's gonna happen. So as a man, we have to cultivate um what's another way I can define man? And I'm glad you had this question. I really wasn't prepared for that, but I say that we're supposed to be defined in manhood. So cultivating, but let me say, matter of fact, it's cultivating, and I say it would all tie in, but number one, we have to know the value in the worth of the woman.

SPEAKER_03 26:14

As a man, we have to know that.

SPEAKER_02 26:17

That's first and foremost, and I always would say that as a man, you have to value the woman more than you value yourself. And that doesn't take any value away from you. But it's we have to know that our interaction, the union, has to be held at its highest regard. So I definitely say to find a man, you have we have to know the value of the woman. We have to know that she's not just there for us to bust her up. You know what I'm saying? And uh so cultivating the value of the woman.

SPEAKER_01 26:52

Got great aspect, bro.

SPEAKER_02 26:55

Yeah, that's that's mandatory, you know, because we see what happens when we don't value the woman. We we're gonna devalue her, you know, and that's gonna cause a whole different type of hell that we see today. That confusion, that chaos, that turmoil. So, you know, when brothers see me talking about accountability, they don't really understand. Like, no, this is how we really get our power. We've been lied to, you know. So the value of the woman, knowing the woman's worth, motivate, because when once we acknowledge the worth of the woman, we're really gonna see the worth of ourselves also. Because when we don't know her worth, we're gonna, like I said, we're gonna devalue her. We don't know the value of her. So now we don't really don't know the value of ourselves. We've been we've been taught something else. We've been taught that we're just supposed to be hypersexual, and that's it. And that's cool. Hypersexual make money. We grow up, and it's men that's gonna die thinking that that's okay. You know. So we have to know the value of that woman. Um yeah, those are those are the two things I'm gonna I'ma stick with cultivating the minds. That's very important because of the specific cultivation, you can organize, yeah, cultivating the minds, other youth around you, the babies, you know. Even your even your wife, you know, your wiz, the lady with, you gotta cultivate her mind. Because we once we have that understanding that everything in this world or in this society is here to distract us from the truth, distract us from that that real love, we got to cultivate the minds. That's our that's actually our duty to do these things, else we're gonna be more accepted. The chaos will be easier to seek in because we're not making that a priority. So we have to do these things. It's actually just mandatory. That's one thing I say, like, if I can't have your mind, I really can't build with you because the world will have your mind. And see, when we got these false prophets or these brothers that's using it for the wrong thing, it might sound bad, but if you're with the right brother that's using it for the for the natural way, then you're gonna be good. The sisters is gonna be good, you know. So that's a fact.

SPEAKER_01 29:17

Like, I'm I'm almost I'm sitting here in awe, like I'm not interviewing you, right? Like, I'm feeling like I'm a guest.

SPEAKER_02 29:29

You know, they they'll say like, oh, you're trying to you're trying to brainwash people. Listen, if you grew up in America, you need to, we gotta wash our brains because we've been taught everything that goes against our very nature. And this deals with this deals with masculinity. Masculinity, we have to understand what is natural, right? We all have been taught what is unnatural, and it goes back to when we left the womb. We come out the beautiful gates of heaven, that womb, that's what the womb is, it's heaven, right? We're not acknowledging that, but that's what it is. If you look at when you come out the womb, what happens? You get unnatural air. They got the air conditioner on the hospital, they got the lights on, you get an unnatural light. And then we're going into the hands of a stranger. That doctor don't love you.

SPEAKER_01 30:16

And that's the first, like, that's literally like the first person that you know what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_02 30:20

That touches you as soon as you get out of heaven. You get what I'm saying? Think about that. Like, and I remember Dr. Umar said something similar to it. He was like, we come smooth out the gates of heaven into the hands of hell. Like, so we starting off on natural, then even if you look at it, the mother is laying on her back. She's in an unnatural state.

SPEAKER_01 30:41

Exactly. Yeah, an unstatue position. Word, imposter, world.

SPEAKER_02 30:45

So that's why we have to understand how deep this conditioning is. And have grace for each other, have that understanding of it, like, nah, I can't be out here condemning people. We just taught wrong from the beginning. And then we got fathers there letting your child come into a stranger. And brothers don't get sensitive because I did it when my daughter was born. I let this stranger receive my child right in front of my face.

SPEAKER_01 31:13

You know what I'm saying? Yeah, you bringing aspects to the to the surface, man, that we don't even really like think of, man. So what would you what would you say is the third definition? We gotta keep it going. Of being a man off top, what would you say? You said cultivate, you said knowing a woman. And what would you say?

SPEAKER_02 31:36

And that that entertain us with uh providing, you know, but that's physically, uh mentally, and spiritually. I do feel it is our our duty to provide, you know. And it's it's rough out here. This economy is, you know what I'm saying? But that is still our our duty.

SPEAKER_01 31:52

You know what I mean? True, true. And and again, like you said, it's it's it's mental, physical, and spiritual. So even if it's not all of them in the same percentage, at least be trying to, you know, striving to balance, you know what I'm saying? Out that's what it's about. Absolutely. I agree.

SPEAKER_02 32:11

You can never let the predicament compromise, you know, the mental. Like, so when I see those 50-50 debates, I feel like a lot of brothers style with 50-50 because they know they can't provide financially, right?

SPEAKER_00 32:25

Right.

SPEAKER_02 32:26

I can't provide for my lady financially, take care of everything right now. I've done it before, I can't do it right now, but that don't mean that I don't want to do it. No, I still want to do it. Like, no, that's still something that needs to be done. I need to take that burden off of her. You know what I'm saying? That's gonna take the burden off of us. So I think a lot of brothers they go against it, you know, or afford a 50-50 because they can't do it. Nah, just because you can't do something don't mean you don't want to do it.

SPEAKER_01 32:57

So true. That's true. That's true. And I think again, like we said, the programming is like we we're we've been programmed to like have to have everything. You know what I'm saying? And be that provider, this that and the third. And as far as the 50-50 is concerned, I don't think, to me, that's really balanced because if when you with someone, you feel what I'm saying? Like, there's gonna be some days they not gonna have no, they ain't gonna have 50. They got 10 for you. So that's where that love, of course. The highest form of understanding comes in. That's where that knowledge itself and all that comes into where, you know, you're able to provide that 90% on this experience for the whiz. And vice versa. She should be, you know, have that same knowledge and wisdom understanding of herself to when you on 15 that day, she provide that. You know what I'm saying? Provide the rest, uh 85. So you know, it's definitely about balancing, like you, you know, like you preach and profess, you know what I'm saying? Like we we are a team, you know what I'm saying? The man and a woman, we're not against each other. So, what's the difference between a boy and a man?

SPEAKER_02 34:09

How they think. It's the thoughts. You know, um, yeah, it ain't about age or none of that. It's about how they think. You know, so right, remember how I said if I would have been an entrepreneur, if I'd have made multimillions from starting from my first business, you know, I would have been a coon right now, you know, and that's like I would have still had the mind of a boy. You know, like even right now, I see what brothers talking about LeBron James' decision. Like, yo, he did this 22 years ago. Y'all was this age into that, and now y'all still worry about a decision 22 years later. You know, it's the mind. Like, we're what where are we prioritizing? You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_04 34:52

Right.

SPEAKER_02 34:52

You know, I think that's in the Bible, right? It's saying as a child, I thought like a child, like a man, I put them childish things away.

SPEAKER_04 34:58

Exactly.

SPEAKER_02 34:59

You know what I mean? So we still can have some sort of emotional attachment because we preach as a habit to certain things, but we still have to use that mental fortitude, like, nah, this is what matters. This is I I can't give this that much attention, that much energy. You know what I'm saying? Especially if I'm not giving what really matters the energy. I definitely can't. That's that's that's when those other things become a real problem. You know, I'm not gonna condemn people for they want to watch sports and all these things, right? But I do say it's a problem when you're not cultivating, when you're not teaching, when you're not loving, when you're not focused on the things that really matter, that's when those things are really a problem, you know.

SPEAKER_01 35:41

So um, nah, you you two you're talking some shit. You're talking some shit. But it it's really sad though when we don't, when we're not able to like notice that, you know what I'm saying? Notice the difference in us not growing. And it goes, and it goes back to my quote that age, wisdom doesn't come with age.

SPEAKER_00 36:02

Nah.

SPEAKER_01 36:03

Like at all. You know what I'm saying? Like, just cause you older than me or cause you grown a lot, you know what I'm saying? Like, even if, you know, grown. But what's grown though? Like you get what I'm saying? Like, so it's like, I think a lot of times when it comes to men, it's the financial status that means more than the mental and the emotional status. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, we're taught to just really be given and driven off of finances and what we can give in a physical sense, but not a mental and emotional sense. Like, time, time is more than anything. Presence over presence. Like, you know what I'm saying? And that's where the value comes in, and teaching those lessons and those jewels we just talk about, that's more precious than money and gold and silver. You feel what I'm saying? And diamonds and all that. So And like you did say, I just looked up husbandry, the care, cultivation. I just I just wanted, you know what I mean? I just wanted to check it. Not that I knew you wasn't on your time, but just for the people like literally right there.

SPEAKER_02 37:08

Like, that's what everybody should always do. Always double check. Anybody that don't want you double check it, they they ego driven, you don't even want to be around them. Double check everything.

SPEAKER_01 37:19

And that's what I say too on this podcast. I know you heard me say it.

unknown 37:22

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 37:23

Check it out. Go look it up yourself. Come back, hit me in the comments or something. Like, yo, you you weren't right and exact. Alright, I can accept that, and I'll redo my research, come back and, you know, refine. You know what I'm saying? But I have yet to be I have yet to be addressed. You know what I'm saying? Respectfully, word.

SPEAKER_02 37:43

But that's a good that's a good topic, a good point. You know, when does a boy become a man? You know, Dr. Francis spoke on that.

SPEAKER_00 37:52

You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02 37:54

But that's kind of what we've been conditioned. So we got a lot of boy mentality, but we can make money, because right? You know how to go to work. And if you buy yourself, you might be able to make some decent money at work. So now you're just content with that, but you ain't thinking about buying no groceries, helping build a grocery store for your people. You cool with the chemicals they put in the food. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_01 38:15

We're not thinking about the real stuff and you know and having that real freedom, that's a fact.

SPEAKER_02 38:20

Nobody wants the freedom.

SPEAKER_01 38:22

All the way around, right? It's it's gonna take a revel, it's gonna take a revolution, man. Or the mind first.

SPEAKER_03 38:28

The mind first and foremost.

SPEAKER_01 38:31

So, what does it mean to be a high value man?

SPEAKER_03 38:39

High value man. I'm gonna I'm gonna keep it still where we've been at with it.

SPEAKER_02 38:46

It's all about the mind. You know, um I've I've seen people talk about the high value and they related to money and things like that nature. But to me, it's it's it's about the mind. You know, um even like when we talked about my pop, you know, he was still conscious of being yourself, knowing yourself, you know what I'm saying? So even if you don't have a supreme knowledge of yourself, you still need to be, you know, pushing that, planting those seeds. So high value man still, you gotta you gotta cultivate, man. Without cultivation, you're not being just like we go to the word husbandry, you know what I'm saying? Like husband, you know what I'm saying? That's what you you're supposed to do. You're supposed to cultivate. This is what a man is supposed to do. Without that cultivation, the people is gonna fall to the programming, the conditioning. Because even if you look at the people that's so-called running the world, they're cultivating in a way of ignorance, but it fits them, it supports them, what they want done. You know what I'm saying? You have to do these things.

SPEAKER_01 39:56

True.

SPEAKER_02 39:56

It's mandatory.

SPEAKER_01 39:57

True. So let's let me tell the people, because you know, sometimes, you know, I like to give translations or whatever. So cultivation means the act of cultivating land or a state of being cultivated. Cultivation is the process of trying to acquire or develop a quality or skill. Cultivation is refinement and good education. So pretty much you saying, and you feel like you're killing it right now. The physical as the physical land, the physical as the physical man, the body, and the physical mind. So pretty much refine yourself, educate yourself, upgrade yourself, you feel right, pour into yourself, better yourself. Pretty much what I be saying on uh Gar University, you feel what I'm saying? Like build and add on to yourself, acquire the information and or education, educate yourself with the things that'll help you benefit mentally, physically, spiritually, emotionally, and financially, as well as every aspect of your existence.

SPEAKER_02 41:03

The real education. You know, we we equate education to a school, Western school.

SPEAKER_00 41:10

Talk about it.

SPEAKER_02 41:11

Nah, that ain't education, because you can go 22 years, your first 22 years of life, going to the school, and you don't even know the value of the woman.

SPEAKER_01 41:18

And you don't even know the value of yourself, first of all. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, facts.

SPEAKER_02 41:23

So, you know, these are the things we have to educate ourselves. That's the number one thing.

SPEAKER_01 41:33

That's a fact, knowledge of thyself. Like Bobby Hammond said, the greatest knowledge on the planet is the knowledge of thyself. Definitely. All right, so from your perspective, how do you become a man of value? Don't say cultivate, man.

SPEAKER_02 41:51

No, no, I wasn't about to say that.

SPEAKER_01 41:54

Um I was gonna say But you would have been right, though, in the sense, even though.

SPEAKER_02 42:00

But I'm looking at it from a from a realistic point of view, right?

SPEAKER_01 42:05

Tell me, let's talk.

SPEAKER_02 42:07

You have to start questioning things, right? Because if I'm gonna say, how do you become this man of high value, right? But you don't think outside the box, you're not gonna really get there. You know what I'm saying? So you have to question it. You have to want more than what's already in front of your face. Because a lot of people get content. A lot of men get content. Like we spoke on just a few minutes ago. You know, you weren't thinking outside the box, you did everything that you were told to do, so now you got a decent paying job. Now you're content.

SPEAKER_01 42:44

Right, you're conforming pretty much too, right? Exactly.

SPEAKER_02 42:54

So to be a high value man, you're gonna have to start questioning things. And that's what it comes down to, questioning yourself. Okay, is this really what life is about? Is this really what is this what I truly believe that life is about? Because once we start questioning and looking at those type of things, you that's when you can really start to get to know yourself. Because a lot of things that we think is ourself isn't really ourself, you know, and but you have to start questioning, like me, right? In high school and even early 20s, I will always, well, maybe like later on in high school, so I need to start getting a little much like probably 11th grade, right? So and then early 20s, even mid-20s, I said I need to buy two pairs of tens at a time. That's what I did. That was me. I have to buy two pairs of at a time. So if that first pair gets a little scope, I'll buy another pair. You know what I'm saying? I mean, I'm I'm bringing out my other pair. I'm thinking that's a part of me. But that was really just part of the conditioning. That's just what I accepted. I mean I haven't bought tens in over a decade. You know what I'm saying? So You gotta start questioning things. Is this really me? You see that all the time. People say, This is just how I am. This is nah. You don't even know how we really are, because you ain't never questioned it.

SPEAKER_01 44:10

That nah sounded like me. Like, nah, facts. Because you you got to, man. You like just like I looked it up, but I ain't look it up to see, you know, not to generally to say that you whatever. But I wanted to see for myself. So that's basically what you're saying. You gotta see for yourself, people. You gotta check for yourself. You gotta check for yourself for yourself. For real. Before you even start, bro.

SPEAKER_02 44:37

So we can truly know. You know, I'ma share this story, right? But so like I said, you know, this is part of the journey when I'm reflecting and getting to know myself. So when I was younger, you know, and the my whole my genes would get holes in them, you know, my earth would patch them up, you know what I'm saying? And I would just feel like, damn, why can't I just get another pair? You know what I'm saying? I was kind of ashamed of them, you know what I mean? The patches. But I was worried about how people was looking at it. I really liked the patches. You know what I mean? That's something I had to look at as I got older. Like, I really liked the patches, but I was uncomfortable because I would think about how other people would look at it. You know what I mean? So you gotta really get to know ourselves. There's so many layers upon layers of things that we have to condition and program to believe about ourselves, and now we just accept it and we tolerate it. And that's not freedom, that's not love. So, you know, it's so many things that we really gotta question. You have to question things. I ain't saying you gotta question the government. I'm talking about questioning on a small scale questioning yourself, which is actually gonna be a big scale because we aren't taught to question these things, we just accept them. So that's what I say. And um, a brother asked me that too. So a brother that I'm just saying, and it's not to come at him that's not you know, taken outside the box. I forget it was a post like last year, and I grew up with him. And um, I forget what the post was about, but he commented and he was like, I don't even know where to begin to start to even, you know what I'm saying, look at things to see what's really going on.

SPEAKER_04 46:21

Right, right.

SPEAKER_02 46:22

You know, and I was so caught up and busy, I should have really built with him. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_04 46:26

Right.

SPEAKER_02 46:27

And um questioning things.

SPEAKER_01 46:31

You have to, uh like you said, it starts with you first, pretty much. Like you, you know what I mean, before you get to the bigger scale, the broader scale, like you said, you know, questioning the government and others around you, your family, you know, people in your life, you gotta question you first. Like you really gotta, you know what I'm saying? Figure out if the information you've acquired or been programmed or forced to believe is valid and or you know, aligns with who you meant to be or wanna be, I should say, in a sense.

SPEAKER_02 47:03

Look, this one I just thought about while we're having this conversation. A high-value man is supposed to have answers, right?

unknown 47:10

Right.

SPEAKER_02 47:11

Supposed to have some answers. So we got a question stuff. Like, gotta do it.

SPEAKER_00 47:18

You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_01 47:19

Right. It sounds so simple, though. I saw him laugh. He over here laughing, like, it sounds so simple, but like it's really not. And only high-level thinkers can, you know what I mean, say, really understand like what you just said. Like in that that short sentence says so much, you know what I'm saying? Again, if you ain't questioning, you won't have no answers. Why do you feel it's important for a man to become valuable? Or a man of value.

SPEAKER_02 47:58

I mean, from from this elevated state, if you're not you're not a value, you're just in the you're just taking up space. You're just in a way. Um you're not you're not contributing to the see me, I feel like right how you asked me earlier about the passion, right? So for me, like when I hear people say what their purpose is, I feel like we all have the same purpose. I feel like our purpose is to contribute to a higher quality of life. Now, your duty in that purpose, your passion, you know what I'm saying? We all just like the hands, just like the colony. They all do different things, but it's all to serve the same purpose, just like the B-hive. We all doing different things, but it's the same purpose to serve the high. So, you know, if you're not serving that higher quality of life, you just really in the way. You just fell to the conditioning. And that's what the programming is all about making you obsolete, making you not worth anything.

SPEAKER_01 48:51

Nah, that's a fair. The funny thing is, me and the whiz was just having a conversation, like just generally, just about, you know, just like how being in a relationship, like, with somebody that has value or not being in a relationship, or experiencing a person that doesn't really have value or value themselves, and then experiencing someone that values themselves, like puts you in a position to never deal with nobody that don't value themselves ever. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, because you you got to you got to a point where you're able to I feel like the value of a person is a reflection of how you how they make you feel about yourself. Like, you know what I'm saying? While they're in your life. So now that, again, like you said, questioning. You gotta question the people in your life, like why they're in your life. Question everything. You get what I'm saying? So it's like, it's like once you become and realize and are aware of you know what real value actually is, you won't want anything less. And the point is, she said, like you said, you're a waste of space. Like respectfully, you know what I'm saying? And not that you're not important, but what you're not bringing to the table, and you not bringing anything to the table is just non-beneficial to, like you said, the grand scheme to support the hob. You're not pulling your weight, you know what I'm saying? To perform to to to to engage in supporting the common, you know, I mean the common ground. As I stated earlier, you know what I'm saying? It didn't matter about what religion you about, what you believe, you're out of, you know what I'm saying? Like, but if we can if we can focus on one common cause, then we good. Then I think we both are able to see the value within what we're doing. You know what I mean? Based off those aspects. You know what I'm saying? So, what qualities does a high value man possess? What you think?

SPEAKER_02 51:01

Um, definitely I'm gonna say courage and confidence. Um because you gotta write to to speak on the topics that are in the minority, that's going that takes courage, right? And we might not even look at it like that, right? Because this is our nature, and we we have denied ourselves, so we feel obligated, you know. But um, I remember when I was in the yard with a brother that had to taught me Supreme Mathematics. And I was telling him my plans when I got home, you know, to spread the love, you know, and pay homage to the woman, things of that nature. And that's he said that to me. He's like, yo, but you about to do it's gonna take courage. And he said it, I didn't look at it like that. I'm like, but it's don't take no courage. This is what it is.

SPEAKER_03 51:42

You know what I'm saying? Like, right.

SPEAKER_02 51:44

It don't take no courage, by the way. But you know, now I see what he was saying. You know what I mean? Like, okay, I see what you're saying, because it's gonna be people that don't want to have brothers that's gonna be against that. You know what I'm saying? So that's why he was looking at it that way. You know what I mean? So you're gonna have to have the courage. And a lot of a lot of people will definitely hold back stuff because they just want to avoid stuff, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, they don't want to damage it.

SPEAKER_01 52:11

No, they want to step out, they don't want to step in their comforts, like you said, they're comfortable, they get complacent, you know what I'm saying? They conform. Episode nine, go check episode nine, y'all. Culture conformity. The culture conforms, be and not because you necessarily want to, like the brothers spoke on. It's it's conditioning.

unknown 52:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 52:29

You know what I'm saying? We gotta recondition ourselves, you know what I'm saying? You gotta think for yourself, we gotta question yourself. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02 52:41

I ran into plenty of uh brothers that know things, been on stuff, but they don't wanna. So even the the courage, and that's why I say confidence, because it's not even just physical, it's it's mentally. You know that it's a lot of work ahead of you. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? You know that once you accept that knowledge of yourself, you can't behave the same way that you once behaved. Like me, right?

SPEAKER_01 53:06

You got a duty. That's a fact.

SPEAKER_02 53:09

Like, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_01 53:10

To move civilized and apply your knowledge, man.

SPEAKER_02 53:14

Yeah, you know what I'm saying? You know now, like you said, it's a duty now. So, you know, it takes that confidence. You know what I mean? So, yeah, definitely the courage, the confidence is where I will that's what says the start. You know, like I said, there's plenty of brothers that just sitting back, not not not not bringing out, not living with the truth, not bringing it out to the people, you know what I'm saying? Because they they lacking that. And that's not to condemn them. It's real out here, you know what I'm saying? I understand it.

SPEAKER_01 53:48

Yeah, no, facts. You just you just limited in your thinking. You know what I mean? Yeah. You know, like you know, but you're not willing, don't have the courage or the um confidence, as you say, from your perspective, to perform your duty. And as a civilized man and woman, your duty is to teach.

SPEAKER_02 54:08

You know, when you when you block that, when you don't get that instant gratification, that'll discourage you.

SPEAKER_04 54:14

You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02 54:15

And that'll mess with your confidence. Like, dang, ain't nobody feeling this. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_01 54:22

So you know, you highlighting you highlighting so many aspects and from so many different lanes that all align with just being a man, just being a masculine, just being, you know what I'm saying? Like you're supposed to be in a natural form. You know what I'm saying? Like, for real, man. Like, and when you said when you said the courage part too, like I felt the same way. I knew, I knew a lot, but I was like, damn, do I really have the courage to get on here and speak on this? Do I have the courage to speak on things and possibly be challenged? I'm gonna handle these challenges. Like people start biting back, like shooting back now, you know what I'm saying? Now what I'm doing, like, you know what I'm saying? Am I arguing, cussing people out now? Am I you think what I'm saying? And I went through that phase though. But once I once I truly like, you know, like was aware of what came with this, I was like, alright. You know what I'm saying? Like, alright, I got you. I got you. You know what I'm saying? Like it's it's the logics. You know what I'm saying? It's the logics at the same time, but then it's like, it's like, what's what's the quote? They say, the people that know that barely speak, but the ignorant motherfuckers is the ones that got so much to say.

unknown 55:37

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01 55:38

You know what I'm saying? So it's like a lot of us, like you said, we know, but we don't got that coverage, man. We don't got, you know what I'm saying? Like we don't have that that confidence to to you know to put it out. That's a fact. So, how do you maintain um yourself as a man? And better yourself. Like, how do you maintain, you know what I'm saying? Refinement pretty much within yourself and continue to grow as a man.

SPEAKER_02 56:10

Um talk to myself a lot. Um, very uh very aware, very self-aware.

unknown 56:18

Right.

SPEAKER_02 56:19

Um I definitely I check myself a lot, you know what I'm saying? Like even when I'm real busy and I'm not be as organized as I would like to be, or as you know, neat and tidy and clean as well, like, nah, come on, you gotta, you gotta get this together. You know what I'm saying? So the the self-talk is is definitely, you know, I'm I'm my I'm my biggest critic. You know what I'm saying? And I'm on myself throughout the day. You know. Um so I would say that's it. That's that's how I do it. Self-talk. Um and checking myself, man, and not letting myself slide, not letting myself off the hook.

SPEAKER_01 57:01

Well, you know, keeping yourself accountable, man. I respect that.

SPEAKER_02 57:07

You know, and that's why I do what I do as far as you know holding men accountable for things, because I'm anything you might see me see on video, you might dance a little, nah, I've done said it to myself for years, hundred times worse. Wow, like because I don't feel weak. I don't see that as weakness. You know what I mean? I feel like we gotta get things in order. I know what we're capable of, just like I spoke earlier about the what they call Y-ins. Nah. So when I see grown men, I see us looking at ourselves like we ain't capable or we feel inadequate because we're supposed to be building communities, nations. Like this is what we are capable of doing, you know. So yeah, the accountability is big. That's you got as a man, and that goes to questioning that we're supposed to be holding ourselves accountable daily.

SPEAKER_01 57:55

That's a fact. That's a fact. Now you're right. I I say it all say a lot on my episodes too. My listeners know, like, I'll, you know, I ain't just talking this. I live this. That's why I'm able to really give it to you at in its rarest form. You know what I'm saying? Like, I you know what I mean? Like, I'm practicing everything that I talk about, and or I've practiced it. You know what I'm saying? So that's why I'm able to, you know, speak at a higher level to really, you know what I'm saying, give it to you. You know what I mean? Go check out season one, episode 20, accountability. You know what I'm saying? I'll start, you know, I'll dive in deep on that.

SPEAKER_02 58:28

That's what self-mastery is. That's why I tell people, you know, self-mastery isn't because you the only way you can master something if you is continual. You continue to do it. Continuous. Yeah, that's a fact.

SPEAKER_01 58:41

That's a fact. All right. Um, what does divine masculine mean to you?

SPEAKER_02 58:54

Um, let me uh think it kind of explained because first and foremost, you know, I refer to myself as a god. So divine masculine, that means you that's how you carry yourself as a god. You you're obligated to carry yourself a certain way. Um divine masculine, you know, kindness, you know, you have to um definitely be kind to the people. Um you have to practice love, self-love, love to the people, respect. You have to govern to for me, divine masculine, you're governing yourself with these virtuous principles. You know, um respect, kindness, love, understanding. You know, um, so yeah, that's that's what divine masculine is for me, you know. And I know some people like, damn, you call yourself a god? Yes. That's a choice to be a God. And it's not to say I'm above anybody, but it's it's a choice that I'm making to say, you know, it's good, and it goes into the accountability. My actions, nah I'm I'm serving a higher quality of life. I'm not serving that lower self, you know. So Divine Masculine is all about that. Serving letting those virtuous principles guide your life.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:23

That's a fact, man. That was a great answer, though. I would uh said pretty much, you know, high high-level qualities, um high vibrational qualities, I would rather say. Like, you know, understanding, of course. And the highest form of understanding is love. Like you said, love hails and conquers all. So, how would you define toxic masculinity?

SPEAKER_02 1:00:55

Shit, the what they how they wanted us to live as men, you know, just worried about sports, worrying about all the sport events, um, not cultivating, you know, not pouring into the youth, um, not seeing the necessity of togetherness. True, you know. So to me, that's toxic, you know. Of course, the the physical abuse and all that stuff, but I I want to bring it on to a level of where we can question ourselves. You know, this is toxic masculinity where we're just not worried about cultivating, you know, where we're just living, we're just going through life, going with the flow. Going with the flow. To me, that's toxic masculinity.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:41

Right. Conforming, yeah. Conforming, straight up. Um being trapped in time, episode nine. Go check that out. Being trapped in time, and we we like that. We just like you said, you get a job, get a nice little job, got a car, nice little place, and a girlfriend. That's it. That's life. I'm saying I know.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:03

I'm not trying, I'm not laughing at people about it, but it's just it's crazy how they conditioned us to interpret the.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:09

I felt like that at a time, though. Uh coming up as a young guard, like maybe my 20s. I thought that's what it was. That's why I thought that was it. That's what we've been taught. Straight up. I was I was so mistaken. I was so wrong. Like, so wrong. But um writing your own wrongs is I feel like is is a quality of masculinity, being able to write your own wrong. Like you say, check yourself. Like, I have all the attributes of that as well. Like, I'm always inspecting myself, introspecting myself, making sure my words, ways, and my actions align with who I say I am, because I call myself a god too. So, you know what I mean? Like, I you know, you know, I can agree more than more than anything and relate and align with anything you're saying. Like, so I had I had to get you on here for that. It was like a no-brainer with the title. I'm like, yo, what I'm gonna title this. I'm like, come on, man, this is easy. So, so how do you define healthy masculinity?

SPEAKER_03 1:03:13

Healthy masculinity.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:21

Definitely definitely um being being health conscious as far as what you put into your temple, eating.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:34

True, true.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:35

You know, and I'm not saying you have to be raw vegan, but you at least have to be conscious of what you put into the temple. You know. Um so that's definitely part of being healthy. And that goes to what you put into your temple as far as watching TV, far music, you know.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:56

What you see here, what you put yourself around, pretty much.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:00

Yeah, yeah, environment you put yourself in, like for me, right? Listen, sometimes I still listen to a rap that I shouldn't listen to. I still watch TV, sometimes I know I shouldn't be watching. You know, I'm aware of it though. You know what I'm saying? And um, yeah, that's and it just goes to that awareness. So, but that's about being healthy. Like, yo, I gotta protect this temple. I can't just be putting all this stuff in here that is not healthy for me. Um, so yeah, I definitely am looking at that's healthy masculinity right there. Even, you know, exercising, working out. You know, we haven't been talking too much about the physical, but that's definitely, you know, you have to be worried about the physical. You know, you should be out there walking, you know. Sure indeed. You're a man doing some callies, you gotta live a little.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:49

Yeah, well.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:50

I'm not saying you have to be the biggest and strongest, but you definitely need to care about those things. This is how you present yourself, you know. This is how you present yourself to the youth. You know, if you're walking around and you're not, you know what I'm saying, looking like a man, you know what I mean? The youth are watching. You know what I'm saying? Well it's watching these things.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:13

Always.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:15

You know, they they watch it. So, you know, that's that's part of health. You know, you're not you're not just uh responsible for yourself. You know, you're responsible for the example that we set.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:28

Whether you want to like whether you accept it or not. Yeah, I'm still responsible. That's a fact.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:35

That's a fact.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:37

And big on that, big on on what you said, definitely big on being physically active. And like you said, yo, you just said some great shit. Like I just want to break it down as far as like you said you ain't gotta be the biggest. Yes, you don't gotta be slinging around 80, 90 pounds for your dumbbell workouts and all that. And like, it's really the most simplest. Things is literally quality. Like for real. Less is more with this. Like, to be real. You don't need no gym membership. You don't need no gym membership. You do need a set of dumbbells, maybe some kettlebells, and a resistant band and a mat. Literally, that's it. And even if you ain't even doing that, you still there's so many body weight, just straight bodyweight workouts you can do. Squats, push-ups, like you know what I'm saying? Lunges, planks, like you get what I'm saying? Different variations of push-ups. Like, so it's like it's so many. I'm big on callies. You know, I get busy too. Health is wealth to movement. You know what I'm saying? And that's not just my company, that's that's my livelihood. You know what I'm saying? Like, I I I really do this in healthy wise, too, as far as the food. You know what I'm saying? Try to eat as as natural as possible. Everything is poison, everything got these, you know, these extra impurities to preserve shelf life and just all of this nonsense. You know what I'm saying? So again, definitely be knowledgeable what you're putting in your temple, physical as far as the food, and making sure, you know, you you cultivating healthy movement input in your life. You know what I'm saying? They say that the the the less movement, the low that's how you lower your vibrations. You know what I'm saying? So you vibrations won't be high if you stand still. So you step definitely gotta get active, stay active. You know what I'm saying? The mind and body connection is real. You know what I mean? Absolutely. The more you move your body, the better you can think. You know what I'm saying? The faster, the more you know, agility you have mentally as well. Like, so it goes hand in hand. So not, you know, being physically active, I'm not sure anybody know fitness I'm referring to definitely helps enhance your cognitive functions, your brain functions. And you know what I'm saying, your reactions, your timings, on, you know, reacting to, you know, to to conversation, anything. You know what I'm saying? In life that happens. So it's it's a it's a it's a two for one, definitely, y'all.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:12

So we're we are protectors, you know? So we need that agility.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:15

Definitely. Yeah, we're protectors. We gotta be able to think clearly in the in a in the blink of an eye, for real. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02 1:08:22

I can't be out here walking with my daughter and a dog loose, and I'll be like, oh man, I gotta be able to handle that. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_01 1:08:34

Well, it's a deep masculine question for those out there. How do you support and protect others without controlling them?

SPEAKER_02 1:08:46

Support and protect others, but I'll control them. Well, I'm my own. You gotta have the understanding, you know, that we can only control ourselves first and foremost. Um, you know the program is is vicious. Right. So like I'm gonna use examples like with my daughter, you know. I plant the seeds, I drop them, you know what I'm saying? But I never push too heavy on her. Now that we had a conversation, but I'll get deep with her here, but I'll you know, say I had a conversation and then I see her going against it two days later, I'm not gonna jump on a case about it. You know what I'm saying? Because I gotta understand it.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:33

You know, that's a great example, bro.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:37

So we have to, we gotta have that understanding. Yeah, not a child. We gotta have that understanding, right? You know, um even when you hear things, you're like, yeah, they had a good, they had a good household. You first might know what's going on in the house. You don't know the real love and attention that was being shown. You know, even I was keeping on my daughter's example, right? The things I'm talking about, it's the only place she gets them from. You know, and I see it because I'll have my daughter for the most half of the time, right? So I'll have it for four days. And this is no knock to her mother or anything. We just we just build it. So she's going to her mother for three days or four days, she comes back to me. Everything we were just building on, I was just doing that, it's like it got erased. You know what I'm saying? Because that's the temple, right? I'm the one giving her these things. Ain't nobody else talking to her about life the way I am. You know, so we gotta have that understanding. And like, you know, and yeah, was it times where it was frustrating? Of course. You know what I'm saying? But um, through experience, I learned more. Like, okay. And even his things, right? I taught her, I was showing her how to wash clothes at my house, but she would do it differently at her mother's house, right? And I would get a little, I told you how to do this. I thought you were saying, and um, I actually had to apologize to her a few years later. Like I said, I'll be sweating. I'm like, dang, you know, it wasn't mean to her. I've never been like mean or harsh to my daughter, you know what I'm saying? But I still could have reacted better for her, you know what I mean? At that time, I was like, no, I apologize. I didn't see it from all aspects when I had said something to you about it. She was like, I was like that one. You know what I'm saying? I was like, yeah, I know that I didn't, you know, I know I wasn't harsh or abusive or cruel to you, but at the end of the day, I should have had more understanding.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:29

You know what I mean? I get that.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:31

And I didn't have that understanding at that time, you know what I'm saying? I should have.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:36

Right, right. And that's dope you had the coverage to even, like you said, even years later, you know what I'm saying? I had a situation where my um, well, my son as well, Prince Supreme, like, like I said, uh, well, like you said, it was a time where, you know, as a father, like I felt being tough, and not overboard, but being tough was like something that can actually help make him learn, and I was wrong. You know what I'm saying? And you know, we went through a situation where, you know, a lot of different situations. I ain't gonna lie, well, I apologized. Like, I truly apologize, and it'd be like, it's okay, dad. Nah, no. You know what I'm saying? I really had to stop him in his tracks. Like, no, it's not. Like, it's not okay. And I, and then I feel like he respected it more, and because I gave him, you know, more perspective and how to understand, like, truly what I meant by, you know, like just because I'm an adult doesn't mean not wrong. And just because I'm your father doesn't mean I can't be wrong either. Like, you feel what I'm saying? I should be able to apologize when I'm wrong, just like I expect you to apologize when you're wrong. You feel what I'm saying? So I think it enabled him to like really understand from the emotional standpoint. You know what I'm saying? That's the feminine. That was the you know, the nurture in me to be like, look, man, I was wrong. You know what I'm saying? And to show that softness and that that doesn't mean you're weak. But you're in tune with your emotions. That's the feminine side of your, you know, of you being a masculine. So, you know, I'm teaching, you know, my son things that I wasn't taught. You know what I'm saying? Exactly. You know what I'm saying? So it's definitely important for us as parents, regardless of what gender your children are, is to be authentic with them. You know what I mean? Apologize when you're wrong. Because you can't expect them to be able to rectify and be understanding to other people. Or you for that matter. You feel what I'm saying? Like you, like you said, you gotta cultivate, you gotta, you gotta input that in your parenting. You know what I'm saying, with your children, but with yourself first, you gotta be able to apologize to yourself first for not knowing. You know what I mean? And I think that's where the compassion and the understanding comes in for yourself to be able to extend it outward. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02 1:13:53

And that's why I like when I said, you know, that was very important for me to be talking to myself all the time. So now we are wearing these type of situations. So now when we're dealing with other people, it's not it's not as difficult to express it to them because we've already done it with ourselves time and time again.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:08

Right, right. Come second nature, right. Come second nature, world. So, as a man, how do you show emotional courage?

SPEAKER_00 1:14:20

Emotional courage.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:23

Well, I think you just gave me an example to be real. Like that situation with your daughter, that would that that ass was pretty much emotional coverage, especially in it in the light of like we, you know, like we speaking on a man just really can't or shouldn't. Or it's not, or you're not being a man when you're like accepting or experiencing emotions, expressing emotions, I would say.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:52

Yeah, and and people gotta understand we wasn't taught these things, you know. And we and we'll go through things like, right, for the example, with you with your son or my daughter, right? You might have that thought, like, dang, this is a difficult conversation for me to say. You know what I'm saying? And as soon as you get that thought, that's me, like, this is why I gotta do it. Because I feel like this is difficult when it's not difficult. You know, that's just an example, you know, that emotional curve is like if you're thinking it, if you know it, then say it. No, don't hold back because you only gonna hurt yourself and you're gonna hurt the other person that you knew that you should talk to. You know, we with that communication, you know, that's a big thing. You know, that's why we gotta teach the kids how to do that. Like, nah, we gotta express ourselves to each other. You know what I'm saying? We need to do that as much as possible so we can feel that love. Agree.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:39

No, that's a fact. That's a fact. Because we I feel like we came from an era, we came from a culture, we came from a people at a point in our existence where we weren't able to express at all. We were shunned, we were shut down, we were silenced, literally. So we, you know, that that still stuck with us. Dr. Joey DeGru, post-traumatic slave syndrome is passed down. So we, you know, we passed down that that mute ness that, you know, be quiet, nah, just suck it up. No, I'm good, no, I'm fine, I'm cool, nah, you're not cool. You're not good, you're not fine, and that's okay. You know what I'm saying? Like, that don't mean you're weak. That just means that it's an indication of something you need to recognize, eternalize, and realize, which I always say, which means that gives you an understanding of what's going on. Emotions is just signs, you feel what I'm saying? Like, it just signals on what you should be paying attention to. You know what I'm saying? What may have affected you or what's affecting you that you may be paying too much attention to. You get what I'm saying? Like, so it could go either way.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:48

I consider her family, right? Anybody I'm really close to, man, but my family, right? So I ain't seen him in a while, you know what I mean? Working, being a father, you know what I mean, working on my passion, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_00 1:17:01

Right.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:02

So one night I would draw a box. He had a few people outside his house. I hadn't seen him in a while. And we played foot a couple times, and um, I just popped out. It's kind of like he's like, he's like, he's like family. You know what I'm saying? I'm backing with I'm actually working, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_00 1:17:36

I'm making it working.

unknown 1:17:38

You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02 1:17:39

And I talked to him a couple months after he was like, damn, bro, when you said that shit, that shit hit me. We family. You know what I'm saying? The real be having a trip and stuff like, oh man, you know what I mean? No, we don't deal with a lot, hey. So what?

SPEAKER_03 1:17:53

You ain't doing that wrong to me. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_01 1:17:56

Right, right, really. Right, right. It really won't jump. Really one shot.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:02

You ain't my enemy. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_01 1:18:04

Like how's a great point, bro? That's a great point. Because that's how that's how we allegedly turn ops, because oh yo, he's trying to play me. Like, call him and all this, like that. Like, come on, B. Like, you know what I mean? Like, and you made a good point because if you didn't have that understanding, he would have shut down. Like he already was already just like, nah, like standoffish and didn't want to, you know, respond emotionally to what you know what you're saying until you showed how to how to do that. That's real, bro. That's real. You know what I'm saying? We definitely gotta have that understanding, not just with our women, with our brothers, man. You know what I'm saying? Like, we are a community within itself. You feel what I'm saying? Before we even, you know what I'm saying, get into a woman. It's it's us, it's our ourselves and our temples is the community. That's first and foremost. Then the community outside as a community of men. You know what I'm saying? And then the community as men and women is the community. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, it, it's, we're doing ourselves a disservice, not realizing like the unity within our our the unity as a as a whole starts with the unity within ourselves.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:19

Definitely. Definitely. And I said that before. I was like, how are we gonna have unity with the people? We're not even united with them.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:26

United with ourselves.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:27

You're 100% correct. That's intuitive right.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:29

You can't give what we what we don't possess. That's another thing I say a lot too. Like, you know what I'm saying? We if we don't contain peace, we can't give it, we won't live in it. If we don't contain, you know what I'm saying, knowledge itself, we won't operate it and we won't act on it. You know what I'm saying? We won't see it in our ways and actions. You know what I'm saying? If you don't truly possess it. So, yo, should we prioritize gentleness as a masculine trait as much as fearlessness?

SPEAKER_02 1:19:59

As much as fearlessness?

SPEAKER_01 1:20:03

Yeah, should we be gentle and fearlessness at the same time? Is that considered a trait? Should we be prioritized as a masculine trait? Gentleness and fearlessness.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:17

Um I would side more with, yes, you know, um, we all need that gentleness, you know. Um, so I don't have a problem with the gentleness being a prioritize with the fearlessness. I think we've had too much um, I think we haven't had enough gentleness, and that's why we're so standoffish with each other, you know. Even with the example, with my homie I just talked about, you know what I'm saying? You know, I had to be gentle with him, you know what I'm saying? Because I love him, you know what I'm saying? And like I said, love comments on them. You know, so that gentleness, yeah, that's a I never even thought about it, but definitely, I definitely uh I would side with it, you know. Yeah, no, I thought that was because it's balance, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01 1:21:04

And we gotta know my mouth, bro.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:07

Use that and how to use it, we gotta have that balance, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_01 1:21:11

Right. So that's why I thought of the questions just now. I'm like, yeah, that's that's perfect balance. Like, literally. Like I think that's that that's a one-word answer to that. Would would be balance, you know what I'm saying? Like you said, in the example you gave with the with nature and and the silverback and the lion, we we dealt with too much fearlessness. Like we wanted to just ravage around in the pride versus spending that time being gentle, playing with the cubs, and you know what I'm saying? Acknowledging our woman and her femininity and her needs, and you know, just everything that pretty much the earth provides to complete us, and vice versa. Do you think a mentor is important to have for a young man growing up?

SPEAKER_02 1:21:56

I yes, I do think it's important.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:58

Wow.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:59

Um just for the fact that especially since we don't have the village, you know, and especially because we're dealing with so much of the programming, you know, we don't have that strong male presence that's cultivated. That the presence of cultivation. We got the coaches, but a mentor is definitely good for that one-on-one interaction, you know. And then you you also still it's also a different type of relationship. You know, whether we acknowledge it or not, the relationship when we do a sports, you know that that relationship is there for the most part because of the sport. Just like you go to college, right? You get a scholarship. If you break your knee, the college's gonna forget about you. And I'm not saying the brother's gonna forget about the kids. You know what I'm saying? I'm not pushing that against it, I'm just putting it towards perspective.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:45

Right. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02 1:22:47

So I I do say that that relationship is good. And um, it makes me think of the young brothers I was mentoring. Man, and I was so grateful for that brother, for him to be supportive, because he could have been ego-based, like, man, no, I ain't. If you if your mother wants you to go with him, then go. You know what I mean? He came to support because obviously he didn't possess what I possessed as far as the communication. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_01 1:23:18

Yeah, and he respected your stance.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:22

You know what I'm saying? You know, so I really had admiration for him.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:27

You know what I mean that day, like, but you know what that but you know that another that was another representation of him him trying to heal the kid in him that that's why he couldn't teach his son areas in his life that he wasn't taught. So that's real. So you just helped them, like, you know what I'm saying? Like hail their lineage type. Like, you know what I mean? Like, I was impactful. That's dope, bro. That's dope. So that's anything you you know you bring into the community, man. And that's what it's about, man. That brotherhood, true. Like, your name fits you well, man. Brother sincere. Straight up, like, that's all I was telling the whiz, like, yo, this is one of the most high value, like, just calm, poised, like, just, you know what I'm saying? Very educated, and just stand on what he stands on. And I put it on. So remember today, remember the conversation we had where we had like a debate, and then you came back, was like, yo, God, you was right. Like, that show, so like, from there, like you was my you was my dude. Like, I'm like, yeah, nah, I got like this is the this is the type of man like I would always want to be, you know what I'm saying? Vibe with, man. Like, because that took a lot, that took a lot of mental strength. That took a lot of at first. I respected you number one anyway, just for standing on your perspective, because you said that. You was like, yo, to my knowledge, I know it as this, this, this, this, and this. So I was like, yeah, true, but I'm like, it's not that. So I was like, Yeah, I respected that, man. Like, for real, because there's not too many conversations or debates, which is good. I feel like debate is a healthy way to say, because we're not arguing. Um you know, often debates with men get, you know, fueled with disrespect because the ego flares up because you didn't know. Why are you mad? Because I know. Like, it ain't nothing my job did for me. It wasn't money. You feel me? It was it was time I put into learning. Like you said, you feel what I'm saying? To be our value, you gotta question shit. So I questioned my upbringing and shit I knew I just didn't align with. You know what I mean? And what felt right and what didn't. So I started tapping into what felt right. And boom, you got what you got right here. Supreme God. You know what I'm saying? Like, so I brought myself into existence pretty much.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:38

Nah, 100%.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:39

You know what I mean? So it's like it's definitely very important to um to be on that time, you know, with yourself first and foremost. Because you can't, you know, you can't set the example for nobody, man, if you're not truly embodying and living that shit. And it's and like you said, it's too many, it's too many false fucking examples out here, or people mimicking the truth. You know what I'm saying? Like you say, people that know, but what are they not doing? They're not showing and proving they know. They're just gatekeeping, they just holding on information in these fancy, smooth, righteous titles. God and earth this and stunt, and bah, bah. Like they really, like, you feel me on that time. Like, it ain't funny, but it's funny, like, because it's like in real time, it really is like eye-opening, man. Like, you really understanding is not only just love, but understanding in Supreme Mathematics is accepting things as they truly are, not what they appear to be. That's that's one of the most amazing parts I love about understanding, and that I do possess true understanding. Because I ain't arguing, going back and forth with people that are not showing improving. I'm just moving back from you. Because I understand you just not on that time. That's cool. But I'm talking about it because I'm being about it. But if you're not gonna do that, cool, then I gotta move from around you. You feel what I'm saying? Like, you're guilty by association. Well, I'm only guilty from being who I am. You know what I'm saying? Like, who I'm supposed to be. You know what I mean? Like, I strive every day to continue to be that world. So do you feel is it difficult to be a man in the world right now that we live in? To be the type of man you are, do you feel it's difficult?

SPEAKER_03 1:27:29

It is difficult.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:30

I knew he was gonna say that shit.

SPEAKER_03 1:27:32

It is difficult, but you know, this is this is this is the ultimate test for the spiritual warrior, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02 1:27:41

Um, and it's difficult, right? Because how I said I wanted to be an entrepreneur and things, right? So, you know, the the people I'm around, I was always the one that got the money for the move. You know what I mean? Always about money, you know what I mean? Because they used to call me dollars, but like about money, right? So You know, welcome. You know, I can't even just do things for the money. It just it doesn't align with me. It's very difficult for me to do that. Even though I I need the money, I want the money, but it's very difficult for me to do things just for the money. I gotta put my time and energy into it. It doesn't already with me. You know what I'm saying? So, you know, it's a very difficult time.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:35

I said it's like it's so I'm talking to myself. It's like I'm interviewing myself.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:41

So it's definitely it's definitely a difficult time for the um brothers who didn't already have that uh situated. And now, like I said, you know, this yo, I'm about to jump into this one. Alright, but I don't have the time and energy to jump into that boom, you know. So, yeah, I would say it's definitely a difficult time, but it's beautiful at the same time because it's all learning, and you know, we're gonna get it right.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:08

Nah, I feel that I agree. I think I think it's difficult for us, the type of men that we are. But again, like, you know, a diamond wouldn't be a diamond without the pressure.

SPEAKER_04 1:29:20

Yeah, that's truthful. I definitely are definitely nothing.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:26

So, what's a long-term goal for you as a man right now?

SPEAKER_02 1:29:34

I want to have a school. Um, and it don't have to necessarily, even though the brother doesn't have it up and running 100% yet, it doesn't have to be like Dr. Umar, you know. Um it could be just uh a place where I would like for it to be. I would like to have it pretty much like boys and boys and girls type of club type of joint, but it's also um when they come in and we have lessons pretty much if they came in after school for two hours a day, and we're talking about real life. So that's that's my ultimate goal. And I also would like to have a building where it's open 24-7. You can come in and talk. We're doing things for the community, you know. We're getting clothes, we're getting pampered, we're doing, you know what I mean? We're serving the community. So those are the things that I would like to have. Pretty community and youth-based things that we that can actually help, you know what I'm saying? Physically and mentally and spiritually.

SPEAKER_01 1:30:42

Yeah, yeah, yeah. The plant, pretty much the Black Panther ideology in a sense. Well, because that's what they was doing.

SPEAKER_03 1:30:48

They set the blueprint, you know.

SPEAKER_01 1:30:50

They did. They was feeding you physically and they was feeding you mentally. They was feeding your soul and your emotions and giving you culture and helping you remember who you are. Well, stepping in and showing you the example, you know what I'm saying? When you look in the mirror, you can see a version of yourself through me. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02 1:31:10

As we spoke on earlier, like how would you pretty much get people to, you know, elevate in a sense. I forget the exact wording, you know, when I said question everything, you know, they've got to question things. Those, these, those types of things in the community will help more people get there. You know what I'm saying? Because now you can see it.

unknown 1:31:29

Now you can see the love.

SPEAKER_02 1:31:31

You can see the building.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:32

You know what I mean? You're not just seeing this believer.

SPEAKER_02 1:31:37

Watching the news where they're just talking about who got killed. We don't even need to know that. That ain't even, you know what I'm saying? We don't even need to know that, honestly. We don't need to know what's going on in Nebraska.

SPEAKER_00 1:31:47

You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02 1:31:48

So, you know, when we can get people doing more fruitful things in their life and feeling that energy. Because even when I had the speaking events, you know, it might not be that many people there, but yo, everybody leaders, it's a different type of experience. Yeah, this is real love.

SPEAKER_01 1:32:03

Yeah, we don't get that.

SPEAKER_02 1:32:04

So we gotta build those places for you to come experience real love.

SPEAKER_01 1:32:09

Real love, true. Yeah. But, you know, regardless of how how limited, you know what I'm saying, the people were, if they absorbed it, they still able to pass that jewel to someone else. You know what I'm saying? And they're passing the jewel as being a jewel that, you know, they was passed. You feel what I'm saying? Living out, you know, what they was taught. I think it's just amazing that uh, you know, definitely multiplying different ways. Like it don't have to be, it don't have to start out in and, you know, mad numbers. It's like a weed plant and shit. You playing one plant. There's so many buds on that joint, though. You know what I mean? So you still, you know, um, pretty much amplified yourself with just, you know, that one plant. Less is more in certain situations, for real.

SPEAKER_02 1:32:54

Yeah, definitely. That's it. Everybody that was there was supposed to be there. Yeah, that was all we needed. That was all we needed. So that's my that's my goal, is to have, you know, a variety of places where the people can come to and really, you know, get what we need.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:11

Right, divine resources from the divine masculine. Last but not least, what's one takeaway you want the masculine listeners to learn from this interview?

SPEAKER_02 1:33:27

It's a tough one. One takeaway. Wait, you said takeaway for the divine listeners?

SPEAKER_01 1:33:36

Yeah, for the masculine listeners.

SPEAKER_02 1:33:38

Oh, just the masculine listeners.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:40

The man, yeah, yeah, because this was pretty much catered, you know what I'm saying, for our energy to, you know, I'm saying, to bring us up to speed and and you know what a divine masculine looks like from our perspective and not society, you know what I mean. So just a takeaway, you would want, you know what I'm saying, everybody to learn from this.

SPEAKER_02 1:33:59

Just to keep doing what they're doing and elevate it, man. And and and don't get discouraged. That's the one thing. Don't get discouraged. You know, because we need you. You know, everybody that's on this path of elevation, this journey, we need you. A hundred percent. You know, um, just don't get discouraged. Keep doing what you're doing, keep elevating, and you're on the right path, man. And you are just we need it. We need it. You know, don't ever get discouraged. Or don't ever let it play over into your real life when you do have them thoughts. You know. Keep up that great work.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:47

Well, we just the observers, man. We we not all of our thoughts. We get to, we really truly have the freedom to choose. Don't feel like you know what I'm saying? Like you have to conform or go by society's norms. That's what that's what this was pretty much about. That you can you can pretty much invent yourself if you like to. If you have the confidence, if you have the courage. Because that's what it's gonna take. Because, you know, you it's gonna be an uphold, it's gonna be an uphill dolo b uh battle. You know what I'm saying? Because you you know, the more righteous you become, the more virtuous and high value you become, the less people gonna wanna be around you. You know what I'm saying? Or lose all your homies or anybody that you know you was lit with. Nah, that shit is gonna be a dub. You know what I'm saying? And I think we have to emphasize that too, that it's not gonna feel good. It's not gonna look good at first. Because that's just something we're not used to. And all of the people that left you are clearly not the people for you. Because a person that truly loves you unconditionally, as we talked about in the beginning, it don't matter what you do or don't do, they're gonna love you. You feel what I'm saying? And they should want to support you if you loving yourself in a healthy, you know, form and fashion, and you know, building and adding on to yourself, helping yourself become better. Because no one's coming to save you.

SPEAKER_04 1:36:13

Nah.

SPEAKER_01 1:36:15

Nobody's coming to save you. Word. But gratitude, Lord, gratitude, peace to the God, brother sincere, man. Gratitude for checking in and giving me, you know, putting in your time and sharing your perspective, man, your divine masculine energy with us, man.

SPEAKER_02 1:36:31

Gratitude of you for this platform, brother. You're doing a beautiful job.

SPEAKER_01 1:36:35

Thank you. I'm grateful, man. Just to think, I I was second guessing myself on this, man. Just think I ain't had the courage at first to do this. Now, look.

unknown 1:36:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:36:44

You know what I mean? So, definitely both pivotal examples of divine masculines, but not only that, but you know, we are the proof of what we talk about, of what we talking about. You know what I'm saying? Like we always speak of. I wasn't like this before, I say that a lot. You said it too. I always think like this. I wasn't always like this. So, you know, we're not making it seem like we're perfect, but we're showing you that we know how to show and prove and improve. You know what I'm saying? Not for sure. You know what I'm saying? And the proof goes into proving it to ourselves, most of all. Like, it's not an egotistical proof. It's a show and prove you know.

SPEAKER_03 1:37:27

Gotta prove it to yourself.

SPEAKER_01 1:37:28

There you go. You know what I'm saying? That's when it's in existence. That's what makes it real. You know what I mean? Other than that, you can't.

SPEAKER_02 1:37:37

Why don't you start proving it to yourself?

SPEAKER_01 1:37:39

That's a fact. That's a fact. That's a fact. That's why it's gotta be applied to you first. Feel me? Whatever information you acquire, you apply it to yourself first. Building that onto yourself, then you can be the example and the manifestation of what you know to others and those around you. You know what I mean? So I'll build back what you you know what I'm saying. You already know another t another experience. You already know. We gotta do a next one. We're gonna do a group. I feel like we're gonna do a men's divine masculine episode or whatever. There's a couple other brothers I feel like we could all just build, you know, as a collective to give, you know, more context into, you know, the masculine energy on how to, you know, develop themselves in a healthy form and fashion and how to, you know, insert themselves in the community and things like that. Because, you know, we don't always know. Sometimes it's not our unwillingness, it's just sometimes we just don't know.

SPEAKER_03 1:38:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:38:38

You know what I mean? All right, peace to the God.

SPEAKER_02 1:38:42

All right, peace and love, and peace to your love to your words, too. Alright, God.

SPEAKER_01 1:38:47

Peace. Gratitude, gratitude for pilling up the ear to vibe with me. Or Supreme Mind the podcast, my low you listeners. Please don't forget and review rate to please don't forget to rate and review. Yeah, that was very dope. That was like, that's my guy. The funny thing is, like, we build all the time, but like this, I knew when I scheduled this interview, I'm like, yo, I'm excited. Like, and like in the midst of these, in the interview, I felt like I was sitting across, like, from me. Uh, you know what I mean? Being a guest as the same time, at the same time being a host. So it was it was a beautiful thing. Gratitude for Brother Sincere for taking the time out to share his divine masculine vibes with the platform that was long awaited. But back to my loyal listeners, shout out to y'all. But love if you share your feedback in the fan mail section on the podcast website where you can rate and review one or the other, whichever. But do something. Let me know y'all out there, because I know you out there. You know what I mean? The website is Supreme Mind the Podcast.buzzsprout.com. You can fast forward, play one, stop, whatever you need to do, but it's there and available for you pretty much to listen to any episode that's up. And load it whenever you want. Or look out for more special guests. Um, like I said, I'm gonna do a, you know, a men's divine masculine with a couple other masculines I feel. Black Son, King Tut, myself, of course, and Brother Um Sincere all at once. And, you know, just vibe out with y'all. Oh, I forgot to ask him to talk about his book. We got a book out called The Apology to the Black Woman. It's on Amazon and it's on Kindle. So go check that out. I think it's like 22 for the for the paperback, and I think like 99 for Kindle. But if, you know, you have Kindle, I believe it's it might be free. I'm not sure. I haven't used Kindle since it's like since it came out.

unknown 1:40:52

Word.

SPEAKER_01 1:40:52

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